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Supercharger Location choices

Supercharger Location choices

I was just looking at the most recent supercharging location map, and I noticed that a supercharger station is open in South Dakota.

Why would Tesla choose to build superchargers in such remote locations prior to heavily populated parts of the US?

Why wouldn't you connect DC to Florida first? Or Texas to Florida?

Are resources being diverted in order to satisfy Elon's promise of a cross country road trip?

Does anyone really drive a car cross country anymore?

tes-s | December 9, 2013

They have a lot of superchargers in process. I don't think the same resources would be building a supercharger in SD as in TX or the I95 corridor, so I doubt resources are being diverted.

If you look at the "coming soon" map you will see the superchargers currently planned for the coming months.

Bighorn | December 9, 2013

It's on Elon's route, but it's also on I-90 which connects Seattle to Boston and much in between. We travel cross country most years since we have kids in CA and RI.

romainiacWV | December 9, 2013

The South Dakota SC is definitely to complete the cross country route. More power to them, Elon's trip will get major +++ headlines and make a move to debunk the myth that EV's are range trapped vehicles. IMO, they should divert ALL their resources to make sure Elon makes this trip ASAP. He is highly visible right now. That route will help expedite the entire system.

We all get lost here in fact we know so much about the company, its mission and technology. 95% of Americans have no clue what a Tesla even is. Remember, most these SC's are needing to go into parking lots of commercial centers. Business owners need to see and understand the value of such a commitment. That is what the cross country route will provide.

Docrob | December 9, 2013

Tesla has the money to build out the entire supercharger system next week if they were able to, the limiting factor is not Tesla's resources it is permitting and approvals and agreements with SC hosts. If an approval comes through for a South Dakota SC whilst East coast approvals sit in a bureaucratic mire then why shouldn't they build it. The whole point of superchargers is to open up the countries vast expanses to the Model S and make road trips possible, the cross country aspect is a major marketing point. The sooner they get a cross country route the better and the more areas of the US currently completely oblivious to Tesla let alone the Model S that get exposure and word of mouth marketing the better. Now is when we want the majority of the country to have Tesla start appearing on their radar, they'll talk about it for a few years, be surprised by the supercharger roll out as it progresses allaying their range driving fears and then when it comes time for their next car will be shocked to find the 3rd gen available at a realistic price point.

DonS | December 9, 2013

Finding businesses willing to dedicate a few parking spaces can also be a challenge. More than one supercharger has been located based on which partner was ready to jump in versus sit on their hands.

Bsalvato | December 9, 2013

It's the order of the Tesla Supercharger Team's priorities that doesn't make any sense. South Dakota?....and now St. Joseph, MI (when there is already one just 46 miles away in Mishawaka, IN)?....... BEFORE anything remotely close to St. Louis, MO or Memphis, TN. This is illogical. Maybe Elon should have planned on a now geographically practical route across the country than the one he is apparently going to take. For example there are currently no plans to connect Dallas to Atlanta at all. A lot more people are interested in driving from Dallas to Atlanta than through South Dakota. What's going on? It's not just all about press releases. People want some common sense here too.

Bsalvato | December 9, 2013

You want me to find you someone to give you space in Memphis, Little Rock, Shreveport, and St. Louis? I can.

sharpe222 | December 9, 2013

jai9001 Yes I do every few years as I hate flying and and am looking forward to following the Elon route in the summer. Tesla right now is more of an emotional than practical purchase. It makes perfect sense to focus on a historic/breathtaking moment of people able to make it from coast to coast with no gas and all the positive press that will ensue over the mundane routes that of course need to be covered. For ev's to really take off even the supercharger network as envisioned won't really suffice but it's a great jumping off point for the next generation of cars and sales.

MNGreene | December 9, 2013

SD chargers are obviously for the cross country trip. I can tell you there is a lot of travel on I-90, at least in the summer. On a trip to Mount Rushmore a few years ago we saw license plates from almost all of the 50 states. I-90 through SD is a nice gateway to the west for some decent sized populations like Minneapolis/Saint Paul, Milwaukee, Chicago, etc.

tes-s | December 9, 2013

The superchargers are not being held up with bureaucracy or permit denials. They are building them according to the plan on their website - they are big boys and understand the permitting process. Some are scheduled for later in 2014 or even in 2015.

jai9001 | December 9, 2013

+1 Balvato.

I just disagree with the order and the priorities.

You will get more press connecting Dallas to Atlanta, or Dallas to NYC then driving thru South Dakota.

Even when you look at the final map there are some major limitations for the southeast.

jbunn | December 9, 2013

Don't think of this as locating superchargers near cities. Look at city pairs, or highway routes by traffic.

For example, select areas that have large concentrations of Teslae. Now work outward to find areas that traffic would be expected to flow to. Then determine the routes, and the distances. Now where do you put the chargers...?

Not surprising that we have chargers on I-90. I-90 is the great highway that connects Seattle, Chicago, and Boston and a number of smaller cities. On the northern part of the left coast, it's one of the two big routes. I-90 east/west, and I-5 north/south. Seattle sits on the intersection

donaldmeacham1 | December 9, 2013

We need them on I 30 and I40 connecting Memphis, Little Rock and Dallas. There is a lot of traffic that goes in that direction.

tonysled | December 9, 2013

I don't think you can get from NYC to Boston at present utilizing the SC network which should be a major route of focus... no brainer there. Atlanta to anywhere is not even an option until EOY 2014. How is that not on Tesla's priority list? How many people will travel from from Seattle to Boston? I would think more owners would prefer to travel from NYC to Boston first. Seems like there are more SC stations in North Carolina, a state that tried to ban Tesla sales altogether, than along the entire northeast/95 corridor. How do you justify that? Do we have to contact our legislators to get Tesla sales banned in our states in order to get SC stations? Tired of the left coast whiners that need a SC station every 50 miles when there are major travel routes in the rest of the US that are totally ignored.

JstACarGuy | December 9, 2013

Woa! Being a NJ resident, I'm very happy about the SC in NC. Can't wait for Tesla to complete the corridor to Florida. However, i am just plain happy that they are building Superchargers and providing them for all of us. Goes a long way for the wide spread use of our cars.

Put on 1,500 miles in this first week of ownership :) Still grinning!

Rocky_H | December 9, 2013

@tonysled, Yes, you can do NYC to Boston on Superchargers. People have actually done Washington D.C. to Boston. We've heard way too much about that particular drive, as a matter of fact. *COUGH* Broder *COUGH*

Blueshift | December 9, 2013

They are all being built simultaneously. Relatively.

History will read that for a hundred years there were none. Then, in the early 21st century, quite suddenly, the entire US was covered.

On a more serious note there are at least 18 under construction right now (that we know of), which represents 45% of all US superchargers.

http://www.teslawiki.net/supercharger/

skymaster | December 9, 2013

In my opinion, the Supercharger deployment has been brilliant. Elon is a genius and I certainly trust his every decision.

We ALL want Superchargers placed everywhere we wish to travel in our "Magic Carpet Rides". This is just the tip of the iceberg. If you fast forward 24 months (this will pass quickly), the entire country will be covered....Patience>>>>>Please!!

We all have put lots of money into Elon's dream...it is time to trust him, support him, and be PATIENT!!!

tonysled | December 9, 2013

Rocky_H I guess you missed the point. There are plenty of places people CAN'T go easily and resources should be deployed in a way that satisfies travel options most effectively. If you are in a place that is served by a SC great for you... I would be ecstatic too if I had that opportunity, but just realize that there are a whole bunch of owners who do NOT have that option and want to travel as much as you do. I am just saying that if the SC roll out was more thoughtfully executed, there would be a lot more people who could and would travel. I too am looking forward to a completed I-95 route... just can't get there from here!

rodrussell | December 9, 2013

I am surprised how late any progress on the I-75 corridor is planned. Atlanta to North and South. That is one of the busiest roads in the U.S. and travel from the Midwest to FL is a pretty popular leisure route. Adding Macon and Lake City would make Atlanta to FL possible. Adding Chattanooga, Knoxville and Nashville would open up FL to much of the Midwest. I guess everyone has their favorites, but I'm hoping they will early deliver on some of the I-75 sites.

tezzla.SoCal | December 9, 2013

I think the northern states need more SC's due to the limited range in the cold weather and I'm fine with that even though I'm from sunny SoCal.

Al1 | December 9, 2013

The SC location choices is such so that one year from now: "80% of the US population and parts of Canada" are covered.

In the next couple of months they're planning to connect Chicago to both coasts and open corridor from NYC to Florida. To me that makes a lot of sense.

There will be a lot of construction in 2014.

Al1 | December 9, 2013

"Adding Macon and Lake City would make Atlanta to FL possible. Adding Chattanooga, Knoxville and Nashville would open up FL to much of the Midwest".

I am sure those are all good suggestions. Honestly I haven't yet seen construction of such a scale (in terms of importance, not financially) been rolled out in such a small time frame. From our day to day life it take decades to connect one end of a city to the other and a lot of talk about vision and leadership.

Rocky_H | December 9, 2013

tonysled, you said you didn't think NYC to Boston could be done, even brought it up twice in your comment, and said it should be a major focus. I was just letting you know that one that you seemed really interested in is done. But yeah, apparently I missed the point.

And no, I don't have any Superchargers within 400+ miles of me, so I've got nothing, but I know that I'm not NYC or Boston, either. I'm in one of those low population Mountain West states. It looks good for 2014, though.

erici | December 9, 2013

quote:
"Tesla has the money to build out the entire supercharger system next week if they were able to, the limiting factor is not Tesla's resources it is permitting and approvals and agreements with SC hosts."

I'm not so sure they can't move faster.

Take a look at their 2015 map.

Are they actively pursuing all of those permits proactively, today? They have all that money you speak of, they can hire the staff to do this.

While 2013 delays are water under the bridge, they can line up all of the 2014 and 2015 ducks ahead of time.

Then, there will be a lot less delay in the future.

It feels to me like this is part unplanned delays, and part dragging of their feet.