Looking forward to concrete information...
Certainly, Solar City could be the entity that swaps leased batteries. They are already expert at leasing solar installations to homeowners. I am signed up for a 60 Kw Tesla. I hope in 10 years I can add a temporary charged leased third battery pack picked up at one of these supercharger stations for long trips, and give it back as I enter my destination city. Battery swapping could eventually be done completely robotically. But really, for the next 10 years, for long road trips, I will just drive my other gas car.
OT, but speaking of Elon's Other Ventures, SpaceX will launch the first full-load ISS resupply Dragon on October 7, 8:34 EDT. First of twelve.
Just in case you missed the link, The Supercharger Premiere Event will be live-streamed today @8:00 PM PST (which is 5:00 AM in CEST, I guess I'm gonna miss that).http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger
Pretty excited about the announcement tonight. Gonna have some popcorn ready and be watching it on my living room TV :)
I think they messed up on the time. PST is Pacific Standard Time, but California is Currently on PDT or Pacific Daylight Time. I suppose we will be OK so long as we follow clock time ;>]
Forget battery swapping. In ten years we should have Wifi Electicity. Electic energy delivered the same way mobile data is delivered. Wireless, the only reason for batteries would be for when reception isn't possible; tunnels, underground garage, etc. A complete restructuring of the power grid.
Seems like pretty late at night to announce something this important. Under the cover of darkness while the East Coast is sleeping.
Must not be planning Super Chargers for the East.
Good point (PST vs PDT). That's a big mistake for such a techy company. I sure hope SpaceX doesn't make mistakes like that on their launch times.
DanD, you be quiet! (Says the guy in New York ;)
@rtesta: the inverse square law says that isn't going to happen. You might get wireless power distribution from running cables in the roads, but even then you are taking a significant efficiency loss.
Will the URL www.Teslamotors.com/supercharger be the entry point for the streaming of tonights event?
They're making the announcement at an LA party, just like the X reveal. Pretty sure they'll be selling those on the east coast.
William9: That's what I was just told. Also it is at 8:00 PDT. I notice the home page of Tesla just says 8:00 PM Pacific with no reference to standard or daylight.
7:05 PDT and counting ...
What are the odds they have adequate serverfarms this time? 10%?
It's 8:03 PDT. Anybody getting the stream?
On Air just now...
Stream is on with the funky music again!!!
I'm getting music now...
Yeah, just music for now
I've got nothing. Is there a link to this other than this? http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger
It's working for me...Elon just pulled up and plugged his car in.
I can see it, but I can't hear anything!
These lights and stuff look rediculous lol
oh I refreshed and now I have audio.
I missed the audio for the first 13 minutes. Did I miss any important facts?
6 are already installed in California, lots more to come in the next 2 years.
"Working closely with Solar City..." LOLz, no surprise there!
OOooh, Tesla owners can use them for free, for life!
Solar-supported charging stations that produce more power in a year than the cars need so will be net producers.
Supercharger network long term (5 yr) plan:
Red dots will be there within 2 years.
Free charging for Model S with Super Chargers. Will be able to travel "for ever, for free, on sunlight"
Solar powered and free for Tesla owners. WOW!
Yes!!!! I thought this was coming given then that the units shown in the video didn't seem to have a payment console, but SuperChargers are free for everyone (assuming you have the hardware). That is awesome and definitely better than people assumed.
And for those of you who might whine about thinkng that it should only be available freely to Sig cars, who cares. What they're doing is more important than that.
Four stations already installed in California. All of West Coast covered in early 2012. All of US covered in two years (red dots above). All grey dots within 5 years.
Because I had no audio and video for a while, I missed the significance of the big spire thing. Is it going to be at every location? Is it the solar capture unit? Or just like a sign to identify the location of the station?
I missed the start too. Come on folks - who can give us the details on the solar part of the announcement?
So! California sunshine will subsidize the rest of the network! ;)
The solar panels will generate for the grid more kWh than the cars can draw -- overall. So power is free, subsidized by the "excess".
Hum, good for you guys. Elon alluded to Supercharger not hitting Canada until 5-6 years... Makes it easy for me to decide on the 60kWh Supercharger option.
I missed the start, too...but I think the beacon is just a sign to bring the brand to everyone's attention. Free superchargers nationwide in time, and worldwide as well. All powered by solar energy.
The bit Tesla thing is not the solar part but Elon seemed to hint that it is somehow connected to the solar part and the electric would pass through it to the charging stations under the roof. The huge roof part is where the solar is installed. I don't think he elaborated on what the huge Tesla thing was.
Travel for free, forever, on sunlight.
Gotta love this quote.
As far as I can tell, the spaceship is just a sign to identify the location of the charging stations. Elon mentioned at one point that the solar panels are on top of the canopies (that seem to shade the cars as they are charging). In the video, it looked like the stations that they have already put in do not have the spaceships or canopies yet, just the charging stations.
Hey guys, I saw the whole thing. First let me say I have no means to buy a Tesla, but do have some stock through my rolled over 401k haha.
I been reading all of your posts for the last 2 months (Which I suppose is pretty late). I've been to the Tesla shop in Newport Beach, and bought a shirt and a keychain lol. I'm a huge football fan, and strangely enough I felt compelled to wear my Tesla shirt, almost as if I was watching my team play and was rooting them on, as is my Sunday ritual. LOL!
Ok so the part you wanted to know...
It started late around 8:07pm PST it finally started playing music with the Tesla logo.
First the designer came out for about 1 min 30 seconds (I was out of my room for a minute) and I don't think he said too much.
He introduced Mr. Musk and he came out and talked about how he's really excited and etc. He was pretty nervous I think.
He was wearing a "supercharged" T Shirt, and alluded to "free" solar energy.
I don't believe the cars will be directly charged by the solar panels, only that the solar panels, over the course of the year, will generate as much or more electricity than is used by the cars.
Lots of places won't have the sunshine year-round to generate enough power, but as a whole, "summed" the year-round, the system will pay (with "feed-in tariffs") for all the power drawn from the grid and generate revenue for Solar City besides. That's a strong incentive for Solar City to keep the panels clean and functioning at peak.
Elon said that for a nominal charge, the 60 kwhr cars could use the superchargers too. I thought supercharging would be available to those cars at no extra cost.
"Travel for free, forever, on sunlight"
But I thought it was bad for your battery to use these things for more than around 2% of charges. Seems a bit disingenuous. This announcement left me with more questions than answers. I thrilled with the Folsom and Gilroy locations though.
I think the panels are the dark areas on the spaceships.
+1 can you use the charger more than 2%
Has anyone been able to find the exact location, other than the city, of the current CA superchargers.
Very very disappointing nothing for the 40kwh car.
The $10K increment for the 60kWh battery is money well spent.
20kWh in battery + supercharger hardware + lifetime supercharging
The next $10K for the 85kWh bring you 25kWh in battery: turns out the supercharger + free lifetime charging equals to 5kWh of battery in price, $2k. Not bad.