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Headroom

I am tall and need a lot of headroom (most cars do not fit...I have an LS430 which fits...the new LS460 does not fit). I usually need 39.5+ inches of headroom. Anyone know how much the "S" has? Ideally I would like to sit in one to see if it would work. (I have reserved a model S, but would cancel if there is not enough headroom...)

Timo | March 28, 2011

What are you, 7'4"? That's tall. My guestimate of Model S interior height from seat to roof is somewhere around 36-37 inches (based on specs and interior picture from autobloggreen).

Brian H | March 28, 2011

Sitting, most men are 28" tall, and women 24". (70cm and 60cm). Height differences are in the legs, except at the extreme ends of the range(s).

Frank9 | March 29, 2011

I don't know where you guys get your information, but you are seriously out of touch. The Lexus LS460 has front headroom of 38 inches. It is not enough for me. Is there someone here that knows what they are talking about?

Ad van der Meer | March 29, 2011

Frank, you're right. I'm not very tall (6'1") and I need almost 37".

I am shocked that you don't fit in a LS460!

mnx | March 29, 2011

I'm 6'4" I just angle the seat back and slouch a little... My 335d has a front headroom of 39" it seems to work fine (but not if I sit as upright as possible.)

Frank9 | March 29, 2011

Dear Ad van der Meer and mnx: Thanks for your posts. I was very disappointed I could not fit an LS460 (I have an LS430 and IT is fine, because I can lower the seat quite a bit). I have tired angling the seat back and that is part of my problem...I like to sit upright and while I am only 6'5", I think I may have a slightly longer torso for my height...I have tried other cars and it seems that at 39 1/2" I am fine...I hope they make the "S" to fit that...

Timo | March 29, 2011

I don't think Model S can be that good for interior space. Whole car has 1426 mm height

- ground clearance 113 mm
- battery pack + floor 150 - 200 mm
- seats 200 mm

leaves 963 mm / 38.52 inches best case not counting roof thickness or stuff like that....and that is assuming that battery pack is the lowest point of the car.

msiano17 | March 29, 2011

Frank, you just may have to wait for the Model X in 2014. Big EV SUV for you. Should give you the head room you are looking for the an EV also!

Roblab | March 30, 2011

@Timo
I for one will be SOOOOO glad to get the real specs instead of reading every brilliant guy's absolutely accurate opinions. So many on this list are obviously very intelligent, but also with intelligence comes the idea that one who has an opinion is infallible.
I refer to the battery and floor estimate: For a 4 inch thick battery bolted to a floor which we know does not have the fully desired stiffness, you guess 6 to 8 inches (Pardon, it is 5.9" to 7.9"). Now, in my fortunate years, I have learned that my opinion doesn't mean much, but "150 to 200 mm" seems a bit much. If the floor thickness is on the low end of your estimate, then the head room could be all of two inches greater. 40 inches is actually quite a lot.

Dieselman | March 30, 2011

I also would like to know about the headroom in the Tesla S as I am 6'4" and cant fit into most cars due to headroom. Virtually any normal car with a sunroof is either uncomfortable or impossible.

Not everyone is tall because of having Giraffe's legs. :)

clea | March 30, 2011

this sounds like a valid question to post in http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/questions ... I would think that they should have a good idea by now of the internal dimensions. Otherwise, if you didn't already, why don't you ask the customer rep directly?

William13 | March 30, 2011

I doubt the seats have been chosen at this point. Similarly the thickness of the roof is unlikely to have been set. I note great variation in head room in cars of similar outer dimension. Depending on design, the glass roof may shorten the ceiling a lot or a little.

Timo | March 30, 2011

@Roblab, that was the low end of my estimate. If you look at the Model S interior pictures from Autobloggreen site I think that seat height is actually quite a bit more than just 20cm. Seats have rails in which they move back and forth, mechanisms to tune the position and also sitting so close to the floor puts your feets in awkward position. So even if that battery pack is actually thinner than that 150mm I think it is still quite optimistic estimate.

You probably can fit in even 2+m tall people, but they need to sit a bit less upright in those seats.

Jeff5 | April 3, 2011

Remember Elon Musk is 6'4" ...I doubt he going to build a car that does not fit him. As a roadster owner that is almost 6'6" tall I am confident the S will fit

Walt | April 10, 2011

I am 6' 5" tall and I was able to ride in the Model S if I tilted the seat back about 4". I could not sit up straight without my head touching the roof.

DCinDenver | April 17, 2011

Frank, I'm 6'9" and had plenty of room in the S prototype. However, it is just that. I was told the interior is under design, so we won't know until the Beta is released next year.

jfeister | April 17, 2011

@DCinDenver

They let you sit in the prototype? When I visited is in Boulder they had the thing roped off and weren't letting folks in it.

Did you by chance get an opportunity to fiddle with the center console?

pmeyer1106 | April 18, 2011

Okay, so now I know that all those years of "tall envy" were misguided. Sometimes being tall has its disadvantages.

Timo | April 18, 2011

AFAIK that Model S prototype that those showrooms have is that mockup based on some MB platform and Roadster battery. Not the same thing. I'm guessing not even for external dimensions.

Have they started to deliver alpha-models to those showrooms?

msiano17 | April 18, 2011

I have not heard about any alphas in the show rooms yet, but I believe I remember being told almost all the stores would get one... do not quote me on that one though.

@jfeister

I was able to sit in the prototype in the Chicago location and it was gorgeous. The info screen functions almost exactly like a touchscreen phone (apple or android). I think my favorite part was being able to expand the navi to the entire 17" of the screen.

VolkerP | April 19, 2011

the plan is to build around 20 alphas. They are assembled manually from hand crafted parts, mostly produced by external suppliers. They are way to precious to sit in a show room, cost well beyond $250k per car. Their purpose is to help find problems that are expensive to fix when production starts so the $10m for the alpha program is well invested money.

Alphas will undergo crash test, durability, hot and cold climate and so on. They will be busy for that time and probably not suitable for presentation after that. I know that some crash tested cars have been on exhibition here and there, it is not exactly the thing to attract new customers.

The betas will be produced from parts produced on the "real" production line, allowing to build more of them. The betas will be in show rooms and available for test drives.

msiano17 | April 19, 2011

Thanks for the correction

Timo | April 19, 2011

Maybe beta-prototypes, IE. those that have been made in the factory line, could be in showrooms before design is finalized. OTOH I don't think it takes very long from beta to final, so stores might as well wait for final design.

msiano17 | April 19, 2011

But they could try to use the betas to help get a final boost in reservations for the S.

Although, I don't see them needing the boost after the media gets a hold of the betas, that may be a big enough boost.

Mark Petersen | April 25, 2011

hmm, cant they take one the chased alphas and put it on display, it is written off any way, and if they need to take a second look at it, they can just pass by the showroom, for a chat ;-)

steuerl | May 27, 2011

Headroom: My problem is that I am 6'3" with 29" legs. It is really hard for me to enough headroom in any type of car. I also weight 400lbs. Are there any suggestions from any one?

Timo | May 28, 2011

You could lose some weight. I'd say about half. You live longer. That also increases the headroom quite a bit, because you lose excess matter at your bottom, which has to be quite a lot.

msiano17 | May 28, 2011

@ Timo

You are opening up to a huge argument...

@steuerl

Whether you are angry or not this is not the place to argue its a Tesla forum so please do not start arguing

Timo | May 28, 2011

No reason to get angry. I'm pretty confident that he does feel that same and knows it, just losing that excess weight can be rather difficult thing to do. I like eating, keeping myself at limits of ordinary weight I need to exercise quite a lot, which can be difficult if you have too much weight (just climbing a small bump causes you to feel that you have run zillion miles, I speak from experience).

Volker.Berlin | December 21, 2011

I usually need 39.5+ inches of headroom. Anyone know how much the "S" has? (Frank9, OP)

You should be covered, head room in the Model S is specified as 39.8" in front.
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/options