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Headliner inside Model S & Overall Impression of Interior Selections Online

Has anyone heard anything different regarding the headliner color? I noticed playing with the interior design selections, that every headliner is the same color (which appears to match the "white" or cream color, if you will). Unless you are getting the white leather interior in a Signature, it seems to look somewhat odd or clashing (in my opinion), if you go with black, tan or gray leather and you have a cream-like white color half way up inside... Thoughts or comments appreciated...

I can't wait for my Model S, but I'm somewhat disappointed with the interior selections and how plain the seats will look. I have a Signature & Production reservation number and paying an additional $3,000+ for the Signature, I was told there would be more interior features for the Signature. I can't justify another $10,000 for the Performance and noticed the additional carbon fiber accents seems to only be on the back trunk area and you get some piping on your seats (in addition to a faster car). Tesla has pushed that their competition with this car is an E class or 5 Series, but at the price for a Signature or well equipped Production, I'd expect a more attractive or unique interior selection (commenting on leather and trim colors). I just went to an auto show and even the Kias and Hyundais have nicer interior color selections (again, this is regarding the leather and trim colors and potential for two tone leather). This is just my general opinion of the interior so far... I'm certainly not a naysayer or trying to bash Tesla... I love Tesla! The exterior body is GORGEOUS and I love the 17" touchscreen, which alone will be standouts in the auto industry.

stephen.kamichik | March 25, 2012

The cream headliner in all configurations is probably to keep costs down. Cream is a "neutral" color and it goes with every other color.

Sudre_ | March 25, 2012

I had mention this same color discovery in the "Studio is operational" post.
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/web-design-studio-operational?pa...

I thought maybe it was an error however it seems the beta's all have the same color roof liner so I guess that's what it is. It definitely pushed me away from the performance version since my wife agrees with BestBrokerinDallas, the colors don't work for that price point. I will not post her comments because everyone would scream about Tesla Bashing. I had her sold on the performance until she discovered the roof liner was not a programming error. I was already expecting to get a standard model anyway so it is no great upset for me.... just Tesla's bottom line.

Things may change if we get a chance to see one in person with similar features to the one we designed in the studio. We don't really have time to travel around the country looking at different betas. It's the only downside of this experience so far. I am #3270 so hopefully there will be time to look at production model samples before contract time.

Robert.Boston | March 25, 2012

Unfortunately, I don't think that the "cream works with everything" holds true. The cream headliner has just enough brown/yellow in it to clash with the gray leather (IMO). It looks better with the tan, IMO, but the tan color itself is yellower than I'd like. Arrg. I'm considering black interior with silver exterior, which at least presents a consistent tone palette.

Jason S | March 25, 2012

Yes, I wondered about the colors that didn't change in the design studio (seat backs and roof liner). It did impact my color choices.

Hopefully the color choices aren't limited that way and we'll see an improvement to design studio in future.

Btw when viewing the interior the outside mirror is always silver in the design view but when you view the exterior you get the right colors and accents... expect the Sig badging appears nonexistent.

Larry Chanin | March 25, 2012

A quick poll:

Which in your opinion is more important when selecting the interior color, matching the interior color to the exterior or matching the interior color to the headliner color?

Thanks.

Larry

Jason S | March 25, 2012

Matches exterior color given the options presented. Best case would be the interior color is a single color -- if you choose white then it is all white except for accents, if you choose black then all black except for accents. But that doesn't appear to be a choice -- the interior seat backs are black but the headliner is white-ish.

I've got my heart set on Perf version, my wife has her heart set on Red Sig exterior, therefore the interior needs to work with that.

In other words I need to take the black interior because it has the red piping (matches exterior color) and the only real options are the rims and accents.

Therefore Sig Red Perf with shiny rims, black interior, carbon fiber is the most likely default.

jbunn | March 25, 2012

I wouldn't worry too much about the colors yet. We're looking at computer renderings on uncalibrated monitors. To me, that headliner seemed to have a grey tint.

I'm getting a grey car with black or grey interior. I thought the lighter headliner made the cabin look more spacious.

I also liked the seat and headrest designs. Sleek, and clean. The interior came together looking better than expected, considering all the concerns we pro-cupholders had.

Longhorn92 | March 25, 2012

@jbunn: Agree regarding the computer renderings; however, I do have a calibrated monitor, and I still worry about the headliner color displayed. It appears to work well with the black, but seems to slightly clash with the tan and grey (I'm looking at the general production model). I'll be interested to see once the productions vehicles come out in the Tesla stores.

jbunn | March 25, 2012

Hi Longhorn. I'm guessing that the rendering is off then. Im pretty sure these coordinate better when real. That tan for example looked nasty in the sim, but in person, not bad.... I'm gonna guess the humans picking the colors are more accurate than the renderings.

Longhorn92 | March 25, 2012

Completely agree. That's why I look forward to seeing the colors in real life.

brianman | March 25, 2012

I don't think anybody's mentioned it yet...

1. The seat belt receptacle for the driver's side matches the interior coloration.
2. The "key" portion of the seat belt looks chrome with a black frame around it.
3. The "lock" portion of the rear seatbelts is black.

All three of the above appears to be consistent across all interior combinations.

The fabric of the seat belt is color-matched to the white interior OR is black. This appears to be a Signature exclusive.

ddruz | March 26, 2012

IMO the cream headliner looks good with a black textile or leather interior and accents the black nicely. I agree that it adds a degree of spaciousness as noted above. I also concur that it's hard to tell how well it will go with the tan or gray interiors without seeing them in real life.

Robert.Boston | March 26, 2012

Tesla should put together kits of exterior paint samples (on curved surfaces) and interior swatches. For some fee, say $100, Tesla sends a kit to you; when you return it, they refund, say, $80.

Given the distance that many reservation holders are from the nearest store, this is the only practical way to put real-life samples into the hands of many buyers. Priced properly, Tesla can even earn a few (emphasis on few!) dollars.

Slindell | March 26, 2012

Anobody else notice that even if you select the "Body Color" roof, the interior picure shows the panoramic roof?

ddruz | March 26, 2012

Slindell, Yes I noticed that too.

BrianG | March 27, 2012

Looks a little weird to me....especially if you're looking at a performance interior with the piping on the seats. Too many different colors going on in the cabin. IMHO, headliner color should charge with leather color selection. Or at a minimum it should be black unless you select the white leather sig option. Hopefully, this just got missed in the design studio and headliner color does indeed change.

Maestrokneer | March 27, 2012

I noticed the headliner too, and like others I'll withhold judgement. But my immediate impressions weren't good. I'm already coming to grips with the "two-tone" interior (I would prefer an all tan interior to go with a white exterior instead of white + tan/black). When you add a third color in the headliner (4th if you're planning to get the banana leaf like me), now you've got all kinds of different color palettes that I don't think is going to look very integrated.

Hopefully Tesla can prove me wrong, but it doesn't look great in the Design Studio.

Steve_W | March 27, 2012

The headliner color is white (also referred to as cream) regardless of the interior color you select, according to my sales rep. IMO, it goes fine with the black interior and red exterior.

Andrew18 | March 27, 2012

Agree

dborn @nsw.au | March 28, 2012

White headliner is great with lacewood and white leather. Any other accents, and the whole looks too busy (except for piano black, but even there the gloss look is too much.

BestBrokerinDallas | March 28, 2012

@dborn - I'm coming to that same conclusion... I think seeing it in person will be key... Sadly the closest Tesla store is a 4 hour drive (and two tanks of gas round trip) away for me... :-(

Volker.Berlin | March 28, 2012

Funny. I haven't commented yet on this thread, but I think I should just add what I think: Very few things are less important to me than the headliner... No offense. Go on and enjoy! ;-)

Ohms.Law | March 28, 2012

Agree

stephen.kamichik | March 28, 2012

My wife's Acura has a black leather interior with black exterior. Surprise! The headliner is white. A black headliner would make the interior too dark.

dborn @nsw.au | March 28, 2012

What would be best is a very pale grey with grey or black interior . Very pale tan with tan or white interior. The headliner has to be a pale color, else the interior is too dark. One size does not fit all.

petero | March 28, 2012

Re: Headliner. Personally, I am concerned about the stitching … you can’t see!

We forum readers/contributors must be driving TM and George B. crazy. Finally: the Design Studio, limited colors, center console, cup holder, have run their course, now we have a new cause to rally around- the headliner.

I agree with Volker.Berlin. It is not a big deal … unless we make it one.

Jason S | March 28, 2012

Given stephen.kamichi... 's comments, maybe cream just looks a lot better than other options once you see everything.

Similar to the way a color swatch looks nice but an entire room painted that color can be overwhelming.

Teoatawki | March 28, 2012

My Dodge Durango has dark blue exterior with a black interior. The pillars are black, too, but the headliner is a fairly light gray. I never really noticed it until this topic came up. It is totally natural.

Mel. | March 28, 2012

Mb had white, BMW had white, the Lexus has grey and it looks really dull. I guess you can tell I prefer the white. The Grey is a bummer

Liz G | March 28, 2012

Don't care. I'm getting the pano roof so there's going to be very little headliner for me to look at anyway.

Soflauthor | March 28, 2012

@Liz G. +1 I'm in the same situation.

BYT | March 28, 2012

I'm with Liz and Soflauthor! I will get the Pano roof and really think its worth it for $1,500 as you also get the sunroof! The Model S would be just sad without a Pano roof and it's one of its wow factors I think!

Beaker | March 28, 2012

At the Santana Row event with the 4 beta's I sat in the Red one with the body color roof, and black/lace wood interior. The person before be was rather short, so when I got in my head hit the headliner. I lowered the seat to see how much room I had. I know I looked up, I know I saw the color of it, but I wouldn't be able to tell you what color it was if my life depended on it.

However if you look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ot_03DwGRA
you can see it was the light color.

I guess for me it blended with the interior enough to be invisible.

xhawk1011 | March 29, 2012

by the time this car gets out the door they will have all of the (significant) issues already fixed and fully vetted! I think we had just about reach that point right now ....time to start shipping !!

Robert.Boston | March 29, 2012

I'll note for the record that the cream headliner would go beautifully with saddle leather....
;-) (Just to combine two threads that I know have annoyed my friend VB)

I will be delighted if the only thing we have to pick at is the exact shade of the headliner and whether we have hooks and grab-handles. But in the "relentless pursuit of excellence", getting the details right, cumulatively, is what creates a world-class product. Elon didn't claim to be building merely a great car; he claimed to be building the best.

Brian H | March 29, 2012

But ... Liz! What about the color of the manual sunshade?!?

;) !:p

Liz G | March 29, 2012

@Brian H

I was already planning on painting a scene of the clouds on it. That way it won't clash with the sky.

Teoatawki | March 29, 2012

If I use the sunshades at all, I expect that I'll use it when I'm parking in direct sun. So, it won't matter much what color it is.

Maestrokneer | March 30, 2012

For those saying "it doesn't matter", I think you're missing the point. You may think we're being to "narrow" in concerning ourselves with these things, but in fact I think you're projecting your personal zeal/enthusiasm for Tesla onto the rest of the car buying world.

It's not that this "issue du jour" is particularly important (because it's not). But although it may not matter to YOU, or the rest of us Tesla enthusiasts on the forums, the interior aesthetics and functionality of the car will certainly matter to "ordinary" buyers who aren't looking to buy an electric car, but are just looking for a luxury sedan. If Tesla is trying to compete in that market (as it has repeatedly sted) and not just the EV market, then they need to nail all of these "little" issues.

And the white headliner with a tan interior, black floors/sides and seat backs, and brown banana leaf dash does not look good. 4-tone interiors are not aesthetically a good idea. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it will certainly matter to a lot of buyers (including my wife).

At any rate, it certainly is not an issue that's worth getting all wound up about (i.e. no "petitions to Tesla" are necessary), but I think they're making a mistake unless they offer an option that will complement ALL of the interiors. (dborn's suggestion above of pale tan and pale grey options is a good one)

Maestrokneer | March 30, 2012

repeatedly "stated", not "sted". Now how about we talk about an REALLY important issue like an edit option for these forums?

Where do I sign THAT petition? :-)

Liz G | March 30, 2012

I guess everyone has different things they look at. I couldn't tell you the color of the headliner in my current car or my last car. The one I had in college I remember was grey, but only because it was falling down.

I wouldn't have even noticed the color of the S's headliner if it hadn't have been for this forum. Will it matter to some people yes but not everyone. Will some people not buy the car because of this maybe, but I doubt it will be many people. There are a lot of other features people will look at before they get to the color of the headliner.

I'd worry more about lack of storage and blandness of the dash first. Those things people will notice right away if it is important to them.

JoeFee | March 30, 2012

I bought a new Rogue crossover in 11/2011 (black paint, black trim/w gray leather) and the headliner is the same color as the S.

I did not notice the white/cream color of the headliner …. until we started to talk about here!

Jason S | March 30, 2012

Even tho I spotted it in the design studio and said something here... turns out I never noticed my current car has black interior and light colored headliner.

I change my vote to 'much ado about nothing'. It was only noticeable because of the camera angle in the design studio -- good for seeing interior but not same as experiencing the actual car.

Crusoe | April 1, 2012

Both my MINI and Impreza are a light silver. The MINI had an option for an anthracite (dark gray) headliner but the pillars were still silver.
The cream works for me with a pano roof and I'm probably doing black on black.

I suppose you can have a custom shop swap it out but you'll still have cream pillars.

Brian H | April 1, 2012

Actually, I think we're back to the "emissivity" issue. White "shines" less IR from a hot roof at you than black.