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Will you use the "low" setting if and when it becomes an option?

Will you use the "low" setting if and when it becomes an option?

Apparently some time in the future (January?), TM will introduce the "low" setting as an option, under which presumably it will behave as it did prior to 5.8.

So... if and when this happens will you elect the option? For my part, it's a no-brainer: I absolutely will use the "low" setting at highway speeds.

brandonarbini | November 21, 2013

Yes, definitely.

GeekEV | November 21, 2013

Yes, absolutely. I can count the number of times I've run over something that would cause any sort of damage IN MY ENTIRE LIFE on *zero* hands... Though my folks did once.

sergiyz | November 21, 2013

+1

JKL | November 21, 2013

Yes, it's windy today. I can feel it.

Thor-Egil | November 21, 2013

Yes, I will!

NKYTA | November 21, 2013

Yep, more often than not.

Petitefogger | November 21, 2013

How much was the car auto-lowering at speed before the 5.8 firmware, something like an inch? Of the three notorious fire incidents, only the third (the trailer hitch) *might* have been prevented by a trivial increase in ride height. The first involved a projectile flipping up from the road and the second was a major crash. Removing auto-lowering has a lot more to do with PR than with actual vehicle or occupant protection.

Long ago and far away I ran over something that flipped up from a tire and punctured the rear-mounted gas tank on my car, which was conveniently full. It didn't ignite, obviously.

nvjx | November 21, 2013

Yes. Definitely!

GeirT | November 21, 2013

Of course I will use it, at highway speed. The silly "fire panic" is just that - plain silly.

ir | November 21, 2013

Yes. Totally blown out of proportion.

AmpedRealtor | November 21, 2013

In 24 years of driving I've never once come across a trailer hitch in the road. I will be lowering my suspension at freeway speeds if that ability returns as promised. I see no reason not to do so. The 3 collisions with trailer hitches, two of which resulted in a fire and the third required a battery pack replacement, represent unusual circumstances per my personal driving experience.

robert | November 21, 2013

Surprise, folks, surprise.

Yes, I would.

George with SacEV | November 21, 2013

absolutely!

RedShift | November 21, 2013

Yes. Most of the time.

AoneOne | November 21, 2013

Untrustworthy, but amusing calculation:

If Model S's driven 120M miles hit three hitches, then my Model S, driven 120K highway miles will hit 0.003 hitches.

If hitting a hitch costs $50K, then my expected cost will be $150.

I'll pay that $150 (as a small part of my car insurance) for the advantage of driving in "low".

Kleist | November 21, 2013

No - ride quality and noise is much better now.
Also traveling well know routes for a week I get more actual miles out of the car then before.

nabeen | November 21, 2013

How could you not?

We chose to buy the Tesla.

We chose to pay extra for the air suspension.
I, for one, am very upset that my choice to use the air suspension on low has been stripped from me.

I have been very happy with my Model S, but this move is in very poor taste. I hope Elon Musk and his team realize this and bring that update sooner rather than later.

NH

Kleist | November 21, 2013

@nabeen - "How could you not?" because the car is better for me now, much better. And I am allowed have my own opinion and preferences.

Kleist | November 21, 2013

@nabeen - "How could you not?" because the car is better for me now, much better. And I am allowed have my own opinion and preferences.

Tesla954 | November 21, 2013

Of course. My only request is that is added as thumb control option. Not only would it be a lot more convenient and safer while driving it sure would be nice not to have to go into the control menu every time I park to put it in extra high. Just a flick of the thumb.

Kleist | November 21, 2013

I have said in other threads - this is a big opportunity for Tesla to improve the car by making the air suspension with user settings like comfort, standard, sport...

AirForce462 | November 21, 2013

I would as long as it is an option such as the creep setting. Meaning I do not want to manually place the car in low every time I am on the freeway. Now, Tesla could avoid liability by simply placing a disclaimer on the selection to enable low mode on the freeway.

jjb94941 | November 21, 2013

@Tesla954:

I suspect that the way TM will implement the option is to allow the user to elect to have the car lower automatically when at highway speeds. I bet that a huge proportion of users will elect "yes"!

Sudre_ | November 21, 2013

I will let it lower if it's just a matter of enabling an auto function. I doubt I will remember if it's not automatic.

Hopefully no more Tesla's hit anything or they will update the suspension so it only rides at 7"s.

robert | November 21, 2013

At least we should be able to agree on one thing:

This matter, following the huge debate, is not trivial for Tesla owners, and ought therefore not to have been done unannouncedly, whatever the merits or demerits of the action per se.

When I started yada-yadaing about range and efficient coasting, I was slightly ridiculed in the beginning. Now read the enormous amount of threads discussing range, batteries, etc., incl. decreasing range with the abolition of the Low setting.

These are important questions for many people and should be treated with the respect they deserve.

Robert

cfOH | November 21, 2013

Yep, I will.

TikiMan | November 21, 2013

Yes, and in-fact, I feel the MS reacts FAR less safely without it!

I have over 18k miles on my P85 Sig, and after owning my MS for well over a year, it now feels far less stable at freeway speeds, due to the higher ride height. At first, I thought it was just me, however, after a few trips now, it really makes a difference when cornering or changing lanes quickly, at freeway speeds. The stability is not as sharp, and gives the car much more of a 'floaty' less stable feel at freeway speeds :-(

NOTE: If you haven't owned your MS for very long, don't have active-air-suspension, and or have the 19" wheels, it likely won't affect you as much.

suresv | November 21, 2013

Yes I will.

TikiMan | November 21, 2013

@Suder,

I believe Tesla would have to change the name from 'active-air-suspension' to 'manual-air-suspension', if they don't return it to the way it was before.

Right now it's officially called 'fixed-air-suspension'.

Pricee2 | November 21, 2013

"User selectable active-air suspension"

Pricee2 | November 21, 2013

And yes I will use "low".

stevenmaifert | November 21, 2013

Day yes, night no.

Lou in SoCal | November 21, 2013

I paid for it so yes.

omarsultan.ca.us | November 21, 2013

Yes. Without a doubt.

tes-s | November 21, 2013

Yes.

Mireille and Conan | November 21, 2013

Yes.

rbgliny | November 21, 2013

YES!

Suturecabre | November 21, 2013

I've been lamenting all this time the lack of variable dampeners a la AirMatic Sport/Comfort mode settings, let alone ride height....So all I gotta say about that is....Hell yes!

RanjitC | November 21, 2013

Gentlemen the car does lower at speed some say 96 mph and some say 100mph. What Elon said in his blog that in Jan you will be able to select at what speeds the car would lower. Thats the way I read it.

RanjitC | November 21, 2013

Sorry I missed the fact that there is a lady on this thread. Apologies.

elguapo | November 21, 2013

Absolutely.

inverts | November 21, 2013

Will certainly use low for FW cruising. I like the option idea, particularly if high and very high can be chosen for higher speeds.

My5bAby | November 21, 2013

Definitely Yes and I say this with some authority. In the next couple of weeks will make an announcement regarding my mileage.

I am soo happy with this car

Brian H | November 21, 2013

petti, A11;
+1, +1

My5;
Hit the 50K mark? ;) You are a mile-glutton!

whitex | November 22, 2013

Why would you pay >$2K for Smart Air Suspension if you weren't planning on using it? Is this question about whether the press scared you enough that when and if TM gives it back you forgo using it?

RZippel | November 22, 2013

Yes. I will and I think it is imperative at >120 m/h = around 200 km/h and that will be a pretty regular speed on my commute with a few very well built, not crowded stretches of Autobahn without a speed limit on my way.

And as you might have read I question if that really decreases fire probability, so no reason to not use if for me. I have no evidence to back this up! Neither I think Tesla has.

I however don't think we will get to choose. Either Tesla declares it a "fix" required to reduce fires, then you will never see it again, or the next car set to low with a fire, justified or not, will take it away. Tesla opened Pandoras box in that aspect. No way to close it I fear.

But Kleist not using it is also perfectly fine and I don't think he needs to explain himself other than he did. I even believe that he has less energy usage now, either from other tweaks in the firmware or instinctively driving slower as the car feels less stable in corners. Even though I guess he would never admit that ;-)

mdennick | November 22, 2013

@inverts
+1

RZippel | November 22, 2013

...b.t.w., comfort, sport, etc. are not ride height settings in adjustable suspensions, usually the dampers are electronically adjusted. So don't confuse this please. Nothing good will come out of this I fear...

Car t man | November 22, 2013

The car should have those profiles and a selection of ride heights.
Also ideally have a slider to set whether to be higher or lower in the available range in any auto mode..

J.T. | November 22, 2013

If the air suspension was never changed there would have been no reason to consider adjusting its operation. Now, we're hopefully going to get it back with some degree of personalization possible. We win. Now people can drive a known route in "LOW" then drive it again in "STANDARD" and judge the difference for themselves.

This whole kerfuffle has possibly given us a better car. Something that wouldn't have happened if it hadn't been forced on us.

Robert, your thoughts.

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