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Anyone load music into the car?

Anyone load music into the car?

Just wondering how it's done. I noticed that it doesn't read any BiDi or international character sets. Is it a fast process or do you just plug your iPhone in and you select what music you want.

Haven't had a chance to try it out yet so seeing what people are saying.

DouglasR | December 16, 2012

I think that's Punch List item #35. It hasn't been implemented yet.

gimp_dad | December 16, 2012

I just have my music on a very small 64GB USB stick that I always leave plugged into one of the USB ports in the car. Works great.

They still need some work on playback modes like shuffling and playlists but it's great that you don't have to rely on built in storage space for this.

olanmills | December 17, 2012

Oh weird, you can't load music into the car yet? I've been meaning to ask about that too. Maybe when the WiFi is enabled, you'll be able to sync the car with your PC, though loading off of a USB drive makes sense too.

I have a whole bumch of CDs I need to get into there somehow lol.

JoeFee | December 17, 2012

gimp_dad | DECEMBER 16, 2012

What format is your music files?

gimp_dad | December 17, 2012

AAC. Might also have a few that are MP3 but I don't think so.

BYT | December 18, 2012

I have successfully loaded and played the following format's via USB thumb drive and the USB port in the Model S:

M4A
AAC
MP3 (128k)
MP3 (64k)
MP4

For the video format's above, it just plays the audio, think music video as one example, but would love to have the video play on the screen as well eventually. Would be great if it had AirPlay to allow for video based Podcasts to be enjoyed on the top and/or bottom half of the 17" screen. When stopped, of course... :)

DouglasR | December 18, 2012

@BYT, when you say you have "loaded" these formats, do you mean you were able to remove the thumb drive? I.e., were they loaded onto the internal hard drive?

BYT | December 18, 2012

@DouglasR, Sorry, loaded into the thumb drive and played via the USB ports sorry I wasn't clear, it was clear in my head when I typed it... :)

Not to say other formats wouldn't also work, those are only what I have tried.

mkh1437 | December 18, 2012

Is there some secret to getting a USB drive to be recognized? Does it require the 4.0 software update? I have tried several USB thumb drives with music files loaded on them, and they never even show up in the Media App.

rbergquist | December 18, 2012

@mkh1437 - I use a 128 GB USB memory stick. Files are organized into directories by Artist/Album/Song. Song files are in .flac and .mp3 formats. Files get read off of the USB when I access it under USB1. Files appear to play off of the USB - if I remove the USB device, the songs are not there, so I don't believe a local copy is made. Aretist & Album are contained in tags within the music files.

Playlists (.m3u) are not recognized.

Worked fine from delivery on 27Nov. Firmware was prior to 4.0. Since then I received 4.0 upgrade and only difference is that now I can browse by the directory structure.

Brian H | December 18, 2012

BYT;
I think video is verboten. It's not a technical issue.

BYT | December 18, 2012

It still works, kinda! :)

@mkh1437, Make sure you format the USB Thumb drive to a Linux friendly disk format like NTFS. FAT32 would be worse case as it's limited to 4GB partition sizes, but again, to test? If it still doesn't work, reset your screens on the Model S and see if that helps?

Make sure files are in the top level for your test and are valid MP3 format or AAC for the initial test.

Good Luck!

rwang | December 19, 2012

The issues w/ video is that the DOT forbids it on the front dash. At least that's what I've been told many times. I'm sure there's a hack coming.

bp | December 19, 2012

Restriction should be only for no video on the front dash WHILE the vehicle is in motion. [Does the rear camera qualify as video???]

Toyota/Lexus takes this restriction even further - and disables most of their user interface while the car is in motion - such as entering names or addresses by typing - only voice command is allowed for many operations while the car is moving.

Mark E | December 19, 2012

BYT: A couple of things -

- NTFS is not particularly Linux Friendly.
- FAT 32 partitions are *not* limited to 4GB, but that is the maximum *file* size. With 512 byte sectors FAT32 can address up to 2TB, or 16TB with 4k sectors.

I'd recommend using FAT32 over NTFS from an overall compatibility point of view - it's much more widely supported and with music files there are minimal real restrictions. If you have a single music file that is more than 4GB then I'd be surprised as an entire CD is 700MB. I'd suggest that 2TB would be more than enough music for most users!

mkh1437 | December 19, 2012

I was using an 8 GB flash drive formatted NTFSA with all the mp3 and m4A files in the root. It doesn't even show up as an option in the Media Player when I plug it in. I will try trfortmatting it as FAT32 and see if that helps. Thanks!

mkh1437 | December 20, 2012

Just FYI, it appears to have been the format. Once I reformatted the USB stick to FAT32, it was recognized by the Media App in the car. It would not recognize it when it was formatted NTFS.

BYT | December 20, 2012

@mkh1437, awesome, yeah, I had a feeling that was the case. Enjoy it! :)

timingbeltkiller | December 20, 2012

In Norway FM broadcasting will be dead from 2017. So I do hope Teslas for the N market will have dab+ radios.

txjak | December 26, 2012

Could someone suggest the best/easiest way to move a bunch of CDs to the car's storage or a USB drive?

Thanks

ETA: Feb 14, more or less
Black, 60kWh, 19" rims, Air Suspension, Supercharging, Twin chargers, Tech, Lacewood, Tan leather.

SD Supercharger | December 26, 2012

@txjak-
Just google "downloading music from a CD to a flash drive" ---everything you need to know is there for a PC or a MAC. The cars storage apparently is not available yet according to previous threads.

hoffscot | December 26, 2012

If it won't even read the USB then it needs software 4.0.

nickjhowe | December 26, 2012

@txjak - "best" - buy a hardware based CD ripper tower. Expensive but v. fast. Easiest? If you already use iTunes, just plug the CDs into your PC/Mac one after another and let iTunes rip them. Then copy your iTunes Music folder to a FAT or FAT32 formatted USB drive.

DennisM | December 26, 2012

I'm having the same issue: sound system won't recognize the flash drive. Format is FAT16 with files from iTunes in the M3u and M3u8 configs. Do you think FAT16 is incompatible? I can't seem to find a way to reformat to FAT32 on my MAC. Any thoughts? BTW - my car has latest software (4.1).

wsjarriel | December 26, 2012

I found that if you try to insert 2 USB drives into the ports before turning the car on, you can watch the console continuously loop and reboot, while trying to scan the 2 drives. Granted, these were 2 32GB drives formated to FAT32. I have my entire music collection loaded on them. The problem resolves if you put only one drive in at a time and let the systme scan/index it. My music is mp3 256k formatted. The biggest issue I have with the media player is the near complete lack of an ability to 'select' anything other than individual songs. What is the point of genre, artist, album indexing, if you can't select at that level? Does anyone have clearer documentation about how to use the select function?

gimp_dad | December 26, 2012

My 64GB flash drive is formatted as FAT32. I have not had problems even from the beginning (I started with rev 1.0). However, the player has definitely improved over time, and still needs to improve (like random play order, support for playlists, etc.).

rwang | December 29, 2012

Hmm. a bit miffed. If you go the sound studio package is it that the upload feature is just not activated yet?

Yvesn7 | December 29, 2012

Same question here. I have the sound studio package and it supposedly has "storage for 3000 songs". Does anybody know how I can get music from my USB key on to that internal storage?

stevenmaifert | December 30, 2012

Like the WiFi and Charge Timers, the Flash memory storage has not been activated yet. At the risk of offending the fan boys, I will say I wish Tesla would focus on these software rollouts first, since they are advertised features we have paid for, and leave things like Homelink position awareness for later.

KevinR.co.us | December 30, 2012

I copied my itunes music files to a USB and have not had any difficulties with the music files. Can't do playlists. I got the upgraded studio package so I am looking forward to full functionality and storage when available.

rwang | December 31, 2012

Okay. I thought w/ the tech package, we could load music. any one know the story behind what happened? the point was to put your music library on the car. that means there's got to be a hard drive in this car somewhere and a way to load the music.

Still no answer from anyone at tesla on this yet. next person on delivery, can you ask?

Volker.Berlin | January 1, 2013

It is said that the storage hardware is there and will be enabled with an upcoming software update. Same with Wifi.
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/punch-list

Vawlkus | January 2, 2013

For the record, FAT16 and FAT32 are NOT interchangeable.
From the posts here, it's looking like FAT32 is the one Model S likes.

rwang | January 2, 2013

Next person should get a date when the storage functionality is unveiled.

eisnerw | February 24, 2013

I've been successful getting music to play from a USB stick, but it appears to be inadequately buffered for 192kbs. I experience skips and stutters, especially with a slower USB stick.

The good news is that you can fill the stick with lots of music, because the navigation is very nicely done. But they need to fix the codec so it plays smoothly.

aaronw2 | February 25, 2013

I have had no problems playing flac audio files from a fast 32GB USB thumb drive. I also tried 5.1 audio flac files but those don't seem to be supported. Hopefully this will be added in the future to support real surround sound.

eisnerw | February 28, 2013

So it turns out that my problems with the USB stick were the fault of a bad Notebook computer that created invalid files. After trying multiple sticks and experiencing the same sort of skipping, I falsely concluded that it was the fault of the car. A little while later, we fortunately noted some mangled photos on another USB stick and, voila, realized that it was the Notebook's fault. I recreated the music on my iMac and all is good. I can now say that Tesla has the best MP3 player I've seen in any car because it is so easy to navigate and provides the ability to select any part of a track.

eisnerw | March 3, 2013

I just purchased a 64GB USB flash drive ($29 on Amazon!) and put 60 GBs of music on it as well as a number of podcasts. I was surprised at how quickly it was processed when I plugged it in, and I'm still pleased with the ease of navigating so much data.

It would be great if Tesla could add a few features that would make Podcasts work better from a USB drive. The first would be 60 second advance, 10 second reverse buttons. The second would be continuous updating of the scrub slider so you can aim for a particular time. Third would be varying the speed of the scrub based on the distance from the slider (as in iOS) so you would have more control over the loction. Finally, and possibly most important, it would be good if the car would remember the highest location played in a podcast so that if you interrupted a podcast to play a song, you could go back to the same spot on the podcast.

The car should recognize a podcast (based on a folder name convention or the length of the file?) and treat it differently from music. For example, when you leave the car, it normally keeps playing music at a lower volume. With a podcast, it should stop so that when you start driving again, it takes of from the last location in the audio file.

bp | March 4, 2013

Tried a test last night and marked several songs on the USB stick as "favorites".

Then went to the Favorites menu and selected one of the songs to play.

When that song finished - it went to the NEXT SONG IN THE FAVORITES list!

This isn't an ideal playlist - because the Favorites list is sorted alphabetically - but it's better than nothing until playlists are supported.

Will run some more testing to see if this really works...

cjc9er | July 5, 2013

Have tried various thumb drives with the Tesla with mixed results. My 64 GB thumb drive worked fine with a few GB of music on it, but when I added more files with my MacBook Pro, I now get the perpetually spinning circle, even after leaving the drive in for hours, and can't play music from it anymore.

I got a new 128 GB thumb drive and put a bunch of FLAC and MP3 files on it with my MacBook Pro. Now the Tesla thinks there are two copies of each song on the disk -- one that it can play and one that it can't. Skipping manually over every second song is annoying. When I examine the thumb drive on my computer, there is only one copy of each song. Any ideas?

I didn't do any formatting on the new Kingston HyperX thumb drive - just using it the way it came out of the package.

stevenmaifert | July 5, 2013

My only suggestion would be to format your thumb drives in FAT32 and use a Windows based computer to transfer the music. That's what I do and everything plays normally.

KidDoc | March 25, 2014

Any updates on this? I would love to scramble my entire 1000 hr music collection.

bp | March 26, 2014

Better support may be in the upcoming version 6 software

KidDoc | March 26, 2014

Thanks bp

Mark22 | March 26, 2014

I don't believe it will ever be implemented. The hard drive is much more useful to use for buffering Google Maps data.
Throw the music on a USB stick and there you go.

Brian H | March 26, 2014

Yeah, the rapid embiggening of USB capacities made the car's drive obsolete for music storage. Better used for Nav, as noted.

TeslaTap.com | March 26, 2014

@KidDoc - Tesla specifically dropped the idea of an internal stored music feature around the v5.0 release. It's no longer listed as a feature in the options page. As others have pointed out, a USB drive is a better way to do this anyway.

mantin | March 26, 2014

I ripped (Roxio is the app I used) all of my 500 CDs and all of my own music (I compose and have a musical opening in NY in May) and saved them to a 128 G thumb drive (Office Depot internet was sale selling them for $49). That process worked great. I also bought a Sony Walkman, and connected a blue tooth transmitter to the S USB port and that plays great too. The sound is similar enough with the upgraded sound system to be comfortable. Seems that Tesla decided that a CD changer was old technology. The computer did all the work, though it took quite a while. At first the bluetooth transmitter wouldn't work, but Tesla upgraded the bluetooth connectivity and it does work fine now.

Mathew98 | March 26, 2014

@mantin - You ought to challenge @robert to a composer duel. I'd pay to watch and see how it goes down...

JohnBatty | December 31, 2015

I'd endorse the comments of Mark E. After trying six different drives with varying formats, I found that the only one that can actually be seen was formatted FAT32. None of the FAT, exFAT or NTFS devices appeared in the list.