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Motor Trend: Model S most important car since Ford Model T

Motor Trend: Model S most important car since Ford Model T

Didn't see it posted anywhere else so here it is: http://green.autoblog.com/2012/10/26/motor-trend-suggests-tesla-model-s-...

TeslaModelSOwner | October 26, 2012

Thanks Volker....wish we had search capabilities on this forum, may reduce number if duplicate threads

Brian H | October 26, 2012

E60;
You can do most searches here by inserting site:www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums in the search field of any engine (google, DuckDuckGo, Bing, etc.) along with your search term.

bobinfla | October 26, 2012

Another good method is to say "I haven't seen this anywhere yet" and wait for Volker to get your back. Volker, you do an amazing job as Tesla's unofficial search engine. As a backup, you can try inserting that text into your search engine, but it probably won't be as accurate as Volker.

Brian H | October 27, 2012

That's how Volker does it. He does not have dozens of URLs memorized and sorted by subject.

TikiMan | October 27, 2012

Wow! On the web site are the first high-res photos of what my car will look like... Black w/ Grey Peformance 21" wheels. I just assumed it would be a good combo, but wholly-crap it looks amazing! Can't wait!

Volker.Berlin | October 28, 2012

That's how Volker does it. He does not have dozens of URLs memorized and sorted by subject. (Brian H)

Shush! How do you know? Don't tell anybody!

bobinfla | October 28, 2012

No Brian, don't spoil the magic!

Andrew18 | October 28, 2012

Searching for a tesla thread should now be called Volkernization, IMO.

lph | October 28, 2012

Has anyone seen the latest PAPER version of Motor Trend. In it is the full test report of including 1-100 (9.8 sec) etc. Also it had been edited from the online version and I think is better. There are two articles on the Model S ... one is under the guise of "Road Trip".
Also it is clear that M/T have tested (this one is online only) another presumably a regular production (not Elon's) Model S. That one had even better figures for the 1/4 mile (12.4 @ 112.5) although not quite as good for 0-60 (4.0). That would put it on track for a 0-100 of about 9.5 sec!
The Car and Driver test gave considerably slower results for acceleration but then said that the top speed is 135 mph which is considerably more than Tesla claimed 130.
All this makes me wonder if they are still trying out different final drive ratios, or could it be that there is some else happening?

lph | October 28, 2012

Oh another thing:
It looks to me that Motor Trend is setting the Model S up to be in the M/T car of the year contest ... To much testing to be an unimportant car to them.
IMO Tesla will win because it is important and ground breaking in so many ways.
Hoping my investments pan out so I can get one soon because I can't stand waiting. Oh well...

nickjhowe | October 28, 2012

9.5s to 100 puts it in some very rarified company. Everything lower than that are exotics and the ultimate suped up sedans (CTS-V, MB S65 AMG, BMW M6 E63). At 9.5 it ties with the Ford GT40 and only 0.1s slower than a Gallardo. The Model S beats the Ferrari 575 and 612.

And I wonder how much gas any of those drink on the way to 100?

Check out http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?pid=mph100 for comparisons.

sergiyz | October 28, 2012

the acceleration is absolutely amazing, but you'd with you had something heavy in the frunk, since so much weight is unloaded from the front wheels with pedal to the metal, that car starts to wiggle as a dragster.

DouglasR | October 28, 2012

How does the acceleration of the Model S compare to that of the Roadster, Roadster Sport, etc.?

nickjhowe | October 28, 2012

0-60
Model S 40kw: 6.5
Model S 60: 5.9
Model S 85: 5.6
Model S P85: 4.4
Roadster: 3.9
Roadster S: 3.7

DouglasR | October 28, 2012

Thanks Nick.

Nick Kordich | October 28, 2012

Given that Motor Trend was hitting 0-60 times of 3.9 seconds with the Performance model, I wonder if a non-performance 85kWh car will outperform the given speed. There are some non-Performance Signature owners out there who may be able to tell us (though it's understandable if they're a little distracted by actually having their car...).

Timo | October 29, 2012

Note that while Model S Performance loses to Roadster Sport in 0-60 it wins the quartermile drag race against it (or is very very close to it, not yet official results). Model S Performance has better high speed performance than Roadster. At highway speeds when passing truck doing 55 there is not much competition to Model S Performance, you need to go look at some real supercars to get something that beats it.

(MotorTrend Model S quartermile 12.4s@112.5mph,
NEDRA record for Roadster Sport 12.643s@102.89mph)

Brian H | October 29, 2012

Nick;
That was with rolling start (generally used to eliminate the ICE mechanical lag in getting the fluids flowing and the metal meshing).

STEVEZ | October 29, 2012

I wonder if the difference in 0-60 times claimed vs. tested is due to Tesla's claimed time being tied to the performance of a car tested at max gross weight (to use the aeronautical term) while the magazine tested a car with a single occupant?

Hogfighter | October 29, 2012

I'm about as biased as they come, but....

If Motor Trend doesn't call the Model S the Car of the Year, what other car could they possibly rank higher? After you've driven this car, any other car feels like a Model T.

tharasix | October 31, 2012

@Andrew18: Now I want to register volkerize.com and just set it up as a front end for Google that adds the site parameter to the search automatically.

Andrew18 | October 31, 2012

Volk away!

MB3 | October 31, 2012

or you can bookmark the link.
http://www.google.de/search?q=site%3Awww.teslamotors.com%2Fforum%2Fforums

Google search will come up. Just append your search terms and click search

nickjhowe | October 31, 2012

@tharasix/@andrew18 - check out http://volkerize.com :-)

Vall | October 31, 2012

@sergiyz
That sounds pretty scary and flies in the face of the road handling and optimal weight distribution advertised by tesla and the press. Traveling with a suitcase full of lead in the frunk can also be a bit... cumbersome.

Volker.Berlin | November 1, 2012

the acceleration is absolutely amazing, but you'd with you had something heavy in the frunk, since so much weight is unloaded from the front wheels with pedal to the metal, that car starts to wiggle as a dragster. (sergiyz)

That sounds pretty scary and flies in the face of the road handling and optimal weight distribution advertised by tesla and the press. (Vall)

sergiyz, when and where did you experience this behavior? It has been observed on some test drives during the Get Amped Tour, and has been discussed here in the forums (sorry, no link at hand right now, but try this). The observation was confirmed once or twice, but the huge majority of test drivers didn't notice anything even though many were paying particular attention to the behavior under full throttle.

Although we do not have anything official, the consensus on this forum was that it is not an inherent problem with the Model S. The problem seems to be limited to a few individual cars (if even more than one), and probably has to do with traction control software or sensors, rather than weight distribution.

lph | November 7, 2012

Has anyone noticed today that the model S is one of Motor Trends contenders for MT car of the year.

I think (hope) it is going to win.

josean1968 | November 8, 2012

Model S has received nominations not only from Motor Trend, but also from Automobile magazine, Yahoo Autos, and even the Time magazine.

Yo can read about Model S success and watch some related videos about your upcoming car.

pbrulott | November 8, 2012

Could that be the reason of the New York event Elon will attend in person...

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-model-s-to-win-prestigious-motor...

Same day MT will announce its Car of the Year there is a Tesla event being scheduled. Chance or staged? We'll see on Monday

Volker.Berlin | November 11, 2012

Same day MT will announce its Car of the Year there is a Tesla event being scheduled. Chance or staged? (pbrulott)

See:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/join-elon-email

jerry3 | November 11, 2012

If the focus of the event is opening up some Superchargers in the Northeast it's chance. If the MT car of the year is also mentioned, it's a combination.

Brian H | November 11, 2012

Considering that MT called the S the Most Important Car Since The Model 'T', I don't see how they can logically NOT make it also their COTY. In the summary comments on the voting page, the "Didn't Like" was just that the styling was rather 'safe'. They must have a jerry3 on staff!
;)

DouglasR | November 11, 2012

Brian, not to split hairs, but I think the Model T comparison was posed as a question or possibility, not a fact.

Brian H | November 12, 2012

True -- but even raising it as a serious possibility raises the MS far above the ICE cars. Can you imagine any other car warranting the label?