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Supercharger Locations

Since the announcement of Superchargers on Sept. 25, I've not seen any mention anywhere about detailed plans or installations of Supercharger stations outside the first few that are still prominent on the web site.

In the Motor Trend announcement they were talking about Milford Ct. and Wilmington DE. Did those happen?

It's time to start thinking about 2013 vacation plans and it'd be nice to know if the East Coast will have stations (or anywhere else for that matter).

Whity Whiteman | December 11, 2012

I think, in the next step they'll unveal more than just a handfull of superchargers...
how long does it need to build up this station? A couple days? Maybe there comes a X-mas-Reveal ...

Lou in SoCal | December 11, 2012

Waiting on that info as well. I just watched the Supercharger announcement event and it looks like there will be an additional Southern California location south of L.A. I'm thinking it'll be in the Carlsbad area (outlets there). Hope they bring these new ones out sooner than later.

tranhv68 | December 11, 2012

I think a supercharger on the 395 on the way to Mammoth would be awesome. If enough people ask for one, maybe Tesla will install one on the 395.

rallykeeper | December 11, 2012

@tranhv -- I would definitely vote for a supercharger on the 395. I'm thinking either Ridgecrest or Lone Pine would work just fine.

I've always been curious about a mystery dot that seems to appear on the 2 year map that Elon showed in the supercharger announcement. It's considerably North of Barstow in the desert. If those dots were real, then Tesla may already be considering 395.

Tesla - if you're listening, you can book a Model X order (to add to my Model S) if you can add that one supercharger! That's a fair trade, right?

If not, I may have to look at Volvo's XC60 plug-in for my next ski car.

wrcrusaders | December 11, 2012

Wouldn't be a good idea for Tesla to partner with some sort of restaurant chain and have them install chargers in the parking lot?? That way we could recharge our car and our bellies....

gregv64 | December 11, 2012

The supercharger 2 year map actually had 2 dots that looked like they were on 395.

The dots that interested me were the ones that looked like San Luis Obispo and Merced. One makes trips to Santa Barbara doable from the Bay Area and the other opens up Yosemite. It will be interesting to see when we get the first announcement of new stations.

Electron | December 11, 2012

@gregv64 Yup, I'm looking forward to one near SLO. My brother lives there and that would
make trips from San Jose to there much easier. Not to mention the possibility of the much
prettier (but longer) trip to LA down the 101.

JOHN HOLLINGSWORTH | December 11, 2012

We need East coast chargers before any more in CA

mrspaghetti | December 11, 2012

The dots on the map were basically random. They don't necessarily correspond with any actual SC locations.

ylyubarsky | December 11, 2012

Does anybody know the exact location of each station on 2 years map? And also why Florida has only 3 stations through the whole state?

jinglehyme | December 11, 2012

I'd love the see one in the San Francisco Bay area. I have a vacation home 100 miles north of SF on the coast. Driving north from Los Angeles, I'm covered to San Francisco. Then what?

tranhv68 | December 11, 2012

I agree with rallykeeper. If Tesla builds a supercharger on the 395 I will get the AWD Model X for my ski trips.

jmatson | December 11, 2012

We drive the 395 a couple of times each summer for backpacking. I recommend Bishop or Lone Pine and Lancaster.

riceuguy | December 11, 2012

Tesla has said not to take the locations of the dots too literally! Also, note that they have also said that stations are prioritized in part based on the location of reservation-holders.

StephRob | December 11, 2012

@Jinglehyme: Sea Ranch? We drove our Model S there from SF for Thanksgiving. Both Folsom and Gilroy are about 180 miles from Sea Ranch, so it's doable with an 85wkh.

tranhv68 | December 11, 2012

I know we are not supposed to take the dots literally but, further inspection of their 2013 supercharger map does indeed put the two dots northwest of Barstow at exactly Ridgecrest and Lone Pine/Independence.

Looks like there might be some skiers working at Tesla.

gregv64 | December 11, 2012

@mrspagetti - I disagree. I didn't look at the rest of the country, but the dots in California and nearby states corresponded exactly with where I would expect them to be located (as well as some of the dots being in the locations of the current chargers).

riceuguy | December 11, 2012

So, I'm not saying they're not accurate (frankly they do correspond to some pretty obvious choices of where they should go!), I'm just saying Tesla has said not to read too much into it (my guess is that they haven't secured all of the necessary land, permits, etc. so they don't want to get anyone's hopes up!

WSE51 | December 11, 2012

I hope that somebody (Tesla would be best) puts up a website with the following for each Supercharger station

a) very detailed instructions on how to find the supercharger... some have commented that it is not obvious for certain stations from Google Maps

b) current data on how many charging lines are operational... some have commented that only one 'slot' was open. When I was at SpaceX near LA a week ago, there were 4 slots but only two were operational

c) if the stations start getting significant use, there needs to be a reservation system or else you could wind up spending extra hours waiting for a slot to open, defeating the whole purpose of them

Onamort | December 12, 2012

@Lou in SoCal : Where exactly did you see a dot near Carlsbad? In the supercharger announcement video?
If that is true I don't need the twin chargers or the high volume home charger!

Brian H | December 12, 2012

The solution to lineups is more outlets, not scheduling. No need to deal with that dog's breakfast of conflicts and bureaucracy and complications.

lightly | December 12, 2012

Hellllooooooo. East Coast here!

William9 | December 12, 2012

Need a SC in Palm Springs area and/or somewhere in the Blythe/Quartzsite, AZ area to allow for travel to/from Phoenix and California. Because the route from Palm Springs to Phoenix is basically just desert, there are no alternatives for charging, other than spending the night at an RV park.

Lou in SoCal | December 12, 2012

@tedromano@mac.com On the video, they showed the map of the current supercharger locations then immediately after showed the 2013 map. In comparing the two, there is a dot between the L.A. (Hawthorne) location and the Mexico border.

Just putting 2 and 2 together, SD wouldn't make much sense since it's too far south and OC is only 50 miles from Hawthorne. I figured Carlsbad since there are outlet stores there. OC could still be the spot though since I'm sure there are going to be a lot of Tesla's here as evidenced by the service center in Costa Mesa. Really, it could be anywhere but based on the map, I'm just glad there will be one south of L.A.

mallynb | December 12, 2012

TESLA Supercharger

I reserved before Superchargers were announced. Based on driving history I expected to order a 40kwh S and keep one of our gasoline fed cars for long distance driving. If the roll-out plan for Superchargers includes reasonable timing for routes we frequent, I hope to upgrade to 60kwh on configuration date. So TESLA, please,let's hear soon, specifically, where and when Superchargers will be located. Thanks!

ylyubarsky | December 12, 2012

East Coast customers!!!!!! Do you need any stations? I see that California cares about it 10 times more than any other states. We need stations from Miami to New York as bad as you from Mexican border to Sacramento.

Jolinar | December 12, 2012

ylyubarsky, cool down man :) Tesla is working on it, they already said that next SCs will be on east coast...

Well, I could say Europe need them too, but everything has its time, first things first... EU prices -> EU deliveries -> EU superchargers...

adurstewitz | December 12, 2012

NC to Miami and New York would be great!

Lectric_Ride | December 12, 2012

Of course my selfish midwest vote would be for an SC on some cheap little corner of cornfield between St Louis & Chicago (300mi), since I make that drive about every month. Would be a much nicer drive in the S! Second vote would be between St Louis & Nashville (also 300mi). There's a nice rest stop w/ a lake (Rend Lake) to gaze out upon for ~1hr & let the dog (& me) stretch his legs. Seems like we are (& should continue to be) suggesting SC locations at midpoints between ~300mi-apart destinations. Plugging into a level 2 while staying at those destinations.

callmesam | December 12, 2012

When I did a map overlay, it looked like there were going to be two Superchargers on the way to Mammoth. One in MOJAVE (which works well if you are coming south from charging at Tejon Ranch. The next important charging station looks like LONE PINE ~120 miles from Mojave. I don't think it will be as far as Bishop, since that would put you almost 172 miles from Mojave and the sweet spot is 120-150 miles.

rallykeeper | December 12, 2012

Disappointed if Mojave. That's frankly too close to LA to be useful and at the margin of comfort (214 miles) for getting all the way to Mammoth. Since Lone Pine is even further from Los Angeles, it looks like you'd have to plan on 2 stops (albeit 30 minute stops).

Let's hope for a 110 kwh battery option for the X!

jinglehyme | December 12, 2012

@stephbob

I do have an 85w. Both of those locations (Folsom and Gilroy) are out of the way. I'm coming from Pasadena on the I-5, I can charge at Harris Ranch. But that will only get me to the north bay area. As it stands now, I either need to go way off course, or overnight in the bay area.

caolivieri | December 12, 2012

I don't think Tesla wants to announce future locations without the chargers installed. It avoids people showing up to a dot on a map when the charger is not there, and people asking "is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet?" ...

TimJ | December 12, 2012

@caolivieri Good Point!

nickjhowe | December 12, 2012

To reinforce what @mrspaghetti said - the dots on the map do NOT represent planned locations. I was told this face-to-face by George B. The dots were put on the map by a web guy to give an idea what the coverage model might look like, based on 150 mile separations on the east, west and three cross country routes. The California ones were possibly based on hard planned locations; the rest are suggestions at best.

ylyubarsky | December 15, 2012

Any news with locations on East coast, particularly Florida?

tranhv68 | December 16, 2012

I was making my travel plans to las vegas when I finally get my Model S and I realized that Tesla needs to install superchargers at our destinations as well. This would allow model s drivers to fill up and not be bound by the few hotels that have level 2 chargers.

I looked at carstations.com and the chargers at the venetian and mandalay bay were often used by non-electrics by either inconsiderate drivers or even valets. In one comment the valet would not remove the porsche for the volt to charge. Another comment involved non-electric cars occupying the charging spaces and security would not have the cars towed.

If Tesla is listening. Please think about installing superchargers in destinations as well as along the way.

Vawlkus | December 17, 2012

Don't look at Tesla, look locally and find them a spot that will welcome them & a utility that will work with them. That's what's holding them back!

Seriously, if you want to help, do a little legwork to get the ball rolling.

ramymora | December 18, 2012

Are most folks paying ahead the $2,000 for the super charger with free charging for life? Is it true that Tesla is giving this away as an incentive if you ask? I am curious if it is worth the $2,000 given that they won't have enough public chargers in California for years.

Vawlkus | December 19, 2012

It costs if you have the 60kwh battery, it's free for the 85kwh battery, and US supercharger coverage is scheduled for 2014 if memory serves. Good value IMHO, although it won't reach north of the boarder much until 2015.

ramymora | December 19, 2012

Thanks Vawlkus. Yes, I am getting the 60kWh, hence, I have to pay for the supercharger. You are probably right that it is worth it given that this is a car I hope to keep for at least 4 years.

Dogface | December 19, 2012

Learned some things on my round trip from the Bay Area to San Diego this past weekend.

1) The charging rate of 150 mph is realized only when your battery is in the lower quarter of charge. Plan on a slower charge if your battery is north of there and plan on staying longer for a full fill-up.

2) The locations are not obvious and there is no signage guiding you to the charging stations. Be patient, you'll find them. Just don't trust nav at Tejon. It has problems negotiating the frontage road there and wants to send you up the freeway about 5 miles for a U-turn. You'll get "Your destination is on the right" for Gilroy, Harris Ranch, Tejon, and Hawthorne, but only Gilroy and Tejon are in sight, but not near where you turn in. Easy in the day, could be challenging at night.

3) Gilroy is currently at 2 working stations, but is getting two more this week. Same for Folsom. Tejon was two, but got two more this week. Hawthorne has two stations, as does Harris Ranch. All have room for 6 or 7.

4) Tesla is working on a near term roll-out of an east coast equivalent to what is in place in CA now (NY to Miami path).

5) Unlike the mobile charging cord, the supercharger cords (more like pipes) are short and stiff. You need to be placed accurately in the parking space to plug in. Would be nice to have indicators to show you are in the right proximity to the cord. Hawthorne has parking bumps like you put in your garage which helps.

Dogface | December 19, 2012

and...

I also spoke with the manager of the Harris Ranch complex. He said they are planning to move the (two) charging stations there from behind the Subway sandwich shop near the gas station on the other side of the road, back over near the restaurant and expand the amount of charging slots.

breading | December 19, 2012

+1 Lectric_Ride

As a fellow Midwesterner, I like your suggestions for Midwest supercharger locations. But, don't forget about driving West to KC. A supercharger in Columbus, MO would be perfect.

Given the distances between superchargers in SoCal (92-116 miles), it looks like superchargers in Kansas City, Columbia, St. Louis, midway between St. Louis and Nashville and in Nashville itself might work.

breading | December 19, 2012

Oops meant Columbia, MO

gregv64 | December 19, 2012

"In one comment the valet would not remove the porsche for the volt to charge."

Might be a different story with a Model S. Just saying ;-)

shs | December 19, 2012

Currently Tesla’s strategy on Supercharger locations seems to be to place them at roughly 150-mile intervals between destinations. Another approach would be to place them at or near popular destinations, such as the town of Mariposa near Yosemite National Park. Mariposa is about 160 miles from the Bay Area and is on a very popular route into Yosemite, as well as being the community nearest Yosemite Valley, where many people stay nights in Mariposa and drive into the park for day use.

Approximately 4 million people visit Yosemite every year, most arriving in private cars. Driving from the Bay Area with an 85 kWh MS one would likely arrive in Mariposa with 15% to 20% battery charge remaining. People driving from the LA area would likely need to charge once at Tejon Ranch. After arriving in Mariposa, charge up while getting a quick bite to eat, or visit the proposed Yosemite visitors center to get your fast pass, and on to the park for the rest of the day. At the end of the visit, top up the batteries for the trip home.

Mariposa is where I live, so this suggestion may seem self-serving, but I am likely to do most of my charging at home. Having a supercharger in a gateway community like Mariposa would no doubt be good for the local economy and I can’t think of a more fun place to drive a MS than in Yosemite and on the winding country roads in the immediate area. Can hardly wait to get mine.

gregv64 | December 19, 2012

The supercharger map showed a dot at Merced. Again, while that might not mean anything, my guess is that it would be a more likely spot. You don't need superchargers where you're staying overnight, slower charging works fine. EV charging at hotels is only going to become more common. Since it's 80 miles from Merced to Yosemite village, you could do the round trip as well.

shs | December 19, 2012

Merced would be good as well, but if I were to pick a place for lunch, I'd probably prefer Mariposa. Plus, if Yosemite puts in a visitors center here that would also be a good location. Right now only one motel in town (River Rock) has a charging station, but I am sure that more will come. I would also concede that a Supercharger halfway up 99 (Merced) would be good.

tranhv68 | December 20, 2012

Does anyone know how many Teslas can charge simultaneously at the superchargers in Tejon Ranch, Harris Ranch, and Folsom?

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